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TIME TO SPLIT THE CASES!
gave the frame a bit of a clean as well as the swingarm:-
never been this clean before...used to be covered in 5mm of thick, used, dirt-soaked chain wax...
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:11 am Post subject: |
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ooohhh...
now to see if i can put it back together again :excited |
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been cleaning up all the old oil and old gasket material from the crankcase half's, got half way through and was almost passing out from solvent fumes even though it was outdoors...i need an organic filter mask 
upper crankcase half
when my plastigauge gets here i can start the rebuild |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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...so thats where im up to currently. need to mock up the rear shock so i can work out with my sister (an architect) the design of the aluminium subframe, then i can loosly re-mount the engine upper and tank so i can work out where to position the fuel pump and new battery box. want to try to mass-centralise the battery so it will be held on the frame instead of the subframe near to the fuel tank...need to get it all sized up.
am currently cleaning bits and pieces...have done all the transmission pieces, will do the crank, connecting rods and pistns next, then i can start to re-assemble the engine back together |
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| fang
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| banner001 wrote: | f ( ).
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Seen that on the custom fighter forum, like it
I know I asked for piccies but I didn't expect you to do a complete update last night!
Looking good, you've been busy, keep it up and ignore Stig if he mentions bandwidth 
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| i started watching "how its made" last night and forgot to stop watching |
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| nuggitt
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Looks like we've got another lovely project on the way. Can't wait to see it finished. Good luck and keep the photos coming. 
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| oldskoolexup
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Looking good. 
Looks like you've done this before!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| oldskoolexup wrote: | Looking good.
Looks like you've done this before! |
haha, nope! most complex thing i have ever done on a bike is fit a new exhaust...until i got this bike i had never held a clutch plate in my hand
hoping to have the engine rebuilt for end of february...i have just been told i am getting another pay increase, 1%, we are getting it rebated from august 2012 so that will pay for the tail plastic yay! |
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| nuggitt
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:43 am Post subject: |
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I'd love to do what you're doing with taking the engine apart but I haven't got the experience or the courage to take it on. Hat's off to you mate. 
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| oldskoolexup
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| nuggitt wrote: | | I'd love to do what you're doing with taking the engine apart but I haven't got the experience or the courage to take it on. Hat's off to you mate. |
I'll second that.
questions to Banner.....what are you doing about gaskets etc and what's the budget?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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all o-rings and gaskets will be replaced. got plastigauge-A on order to do the oil clearances, will replace bushings if necessary (might need plastigauge-xl for some smaller gaps). might replace camchain and starter chain, but they look fine.
if its broken/damaged it will get replaced.
no budget as such, i think it will end up costing ~£2000 thats with the cost of the bike taken into account, but it really depends on what i do for the front end (new-ish R6/R1 is a good £500...)... |
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| oldskoolexup
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure starter clutch mechanism is in good order before it all goes back together.
You'll find that it's pretty much the last thing that's accesible and requires a full engine strip if it goes faulty.
So far as testing it for damage and clearances is concerned, suggest the other clever one's on here will be better placed to advise.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| oldskoolexup wrote: | Make sure starter clutch mechanism is in good order before it all goes back together.
You'll find that it's pretty much the last thing that's accessible and requires a full engine strip if it goes faulty.
So far as testing it for damage and clearances is concerned, suggest the other clever one's on here will be better placed to advise. |
already tested, taken apart, cleaned and re-assembled
i mainly took it apart because the steel-bearing things moved out of position when i removed the gear, and you cant put them back without a disassemble...way to design yamaha!
i even checked and double checked that it turns in the correct way (as you remove it upside down like).
for +46,000 the engine is in remarkeable condition internally, externally was a different matter, but that can be sandblasted back to health
the selector forks are good, almost no marks to the gear dogs, no visible scratches to the conrod/crank bushings, gudgeon pins came out fine with no marks, all the oil lines seem open and there was very minimal gasket material in the oil pan filter...i am very impressed, especially as its been say for at least 4 of its 23 years idle in a damp garage.
i also attacked the gear shift lever with glacial acetic acid (the purified acid you find in vinegar) and took a wire brush to the rusted end of the drive shaft (where it screws onto the front sprocket), came up good |
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| oldskoolexup
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds gr8!
Have you got any photos of what you did with starter clutch etc?
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