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| nuggitt Moderator

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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oldskoolexup wrote: | Sounds gr8!
Have you got any photos of what you did with starter clutch etc? |
I'm glad you asked that question oldskool. I was telling roadrunner the other day about my bike. If I leave it stood for say two month or so and when I come to start it and put it in gear the bike shoots forward and stalls and yes the side stand is up. Is that a fault with the starter clutch being dry of oil?
Can someone explain to me (in simple mans talk) what the starter motor does exactly? _________________ Bit of advice. Buy a good bed and a good pair of shoes, because if you aren't in one you'll be in the other. |
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| oldskoolexup Motormouth

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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nuggitt wrote: | Is that a fault with the starter clutch being short of oil? |
I don't think so but I'll let one of the clever lads explain if it is/isn't and how it all works. Ask me about electronics/IT/electricary and basic stuff and I can prob manage though....... _________________ Life begins at the end of your comfort zone,
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| banner001 Pit-lane Reporter

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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ill try to explain it here, what it has is 3 metal cylinders around the edge. these can normally spin freely when the red bit (starter gear) turns counterclockwise. when you hit the starter motor button you turn that gear clockwise, this forces the metal cylinders to hit the springs (green) and roll up the ramp (yellow), this is what "locks" the starter motor only allowing it to turn in 1 direction.
pic 1 - no force applied clockwise
pic 2 as you hit the starter
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| banner001 Pit-lane Reporter

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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as for what the starter motor does, the starter motor turns a gear, that gear turns the starter sprag clutch (what ive drawn above), the gear on the starter sprag clutch has another gear attached to it, that turns a thick chain that goes to the crankshaft.
so when you hit the starter motor it turns the crankshaft. |
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| Stig Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Banner, got the part done that you required. Hope its OK. i'll get it in the post tomorrow if possible
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| banner001 Pit-lane Reporter

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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ah mate, you are a star!
if you ever need any molecular biology work doing, im your man! |
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| nuggitt Moderator

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that banner001.  _________________ Bit of advice. Buy a good bed and a good pair of shoes, because if you aren't in one you'll be in the other. |
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| Stig Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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banner001 wrote: | ah mate, you are a star!
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If it works OK, will you post pics of how its used so I can file them for reference
Ta _________________ AKA Bald headed b'stard |
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| banner001 Pit-lane Reporter

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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will do, its an adaptor for my current one, ill take some pics when the part gets here.
another plus, my heater has arrived, no longer will i have to endure 2C weather in my man-pit...just gotta try to not get any petrol/solvent on it, its that cold im going to place it just behind me to get the max warmth from it
the garage is getting messy, so that needs sorting out soon, got boxes of bits everywhere  |
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| RAG TOP Scooter Boy

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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nuggitt wrote: | oldskoolexup wrote: | Sounds gr8!
Have you got any photos of what you did with starter clutch etc? |
I'm glad you asked that question oldskool. I was telling roadrunner the other day about my bike. If I leave it stood for say two month or so and when I come to start it and put it in gear the bike shoots forward and stalls and yes the side stand is up. Is that a fault with the starter clutch being dry of oil?
Can someone explain to me (in simple mans talk) what the starter motor does exactly? |
nuggitt that's just your clutch plates sticking.next time put it in gear engine not running pull clutch lever in and rock the bike forwards and backwards and you will feel the clutch free off,this will stop the big crunch and bike stalling.  _________________ no fool like an old fool |
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| nuggitt Moderator

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that RAG TOP. You're spot on with that diagnosis, because roadrunner explained exactly what you have put to me yesterday. I don't know why I kept thinking it was the starter clutch playing up. Thanks again RAG TOP and Roadrunner of course. It's nice to know that I'm in the company of friends with plenty up top. Especially you RAG TOP with that lovely avatar you have.  _________________ Bit of advice. Buy a good bed and a good pair of shoes, because if you aren't in one you'll be in the other. |
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| willandrip Test Rider

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Have you not owned British bikes in the past Nugget.? _________________ Endeavour to persevere. |
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| nuggitt Moderator

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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willandrip wrote: | Have you not owned British bikes in the past Nugget.? |
I've owned a couple in the past but I wasn't interested in the moving parts that was in them. I'd put the petrol in and as long as they moved that did it for me will.  _________________ Bit of advice. Buy a good bed and a good pair of shoes, because if you aren't in one you'll be in the other. |
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| willandrip Test Rider

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:12 am Post subject: |
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It was more of the way they were started Nuggtt;
Clutch lever in;wind it over on kickstart once,let clutch out,feel for compression ,then go for it.
You pulled clutch in at start to free off the sticky plates.!
Stopped you looking a dick when you engaged first without the gearbox making a racket and the bike lunging forward.
It will come back to you in a minute.!!! _________________ Endeavour to persevere. |
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| nuggitt Moderator

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes it's all coming back to me now. I remember now where I got all those bad bruisers from around my knee, when you didn't quite get the compression it right.  _________________ Bit of advice. Buy a good bed and a good pair of shoes, because if you aren't in one you'll be in the other. |
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